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Ractaros96

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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:35 am

PROGEMA facility

I have some questions about this location:

1. Is there any possible way to remove those rocks behind door on level 2?
2. Earlier in game I have found Plasma Transformer at the Corath mine and now in PROGEMA I have found second one. Can I use them in any way?
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:13 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

Ractaros96 wrote:I have some questions about this location:

1. Is there any possible way to remove those rocks behind door on level 2?
2. Earlier in game I have found Plasma Transformer at the Corath mine and now in PROGEMA I have found second one. Can I use them in any way?


Try using more dynamite and see what happens, I think you can get access to all the floors with having 100 science and 100 repair. I'm going to try it when i max it out.
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:18 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

LifeTears wrote:
Ractaros96 wrote:I have some questions about this location:

1. Is there any possible way to remove those rocks behind door on level 2?
2. Earlier in game I have found Plasma Transformer at the Corath mine and now in PROGEMA I have found second one. Can I use them in any way?


Try using more dynamite and see what happens, I think you can get access to all the floors with having 100 science and 100 repair. I'm going to try it when i max it out.


I know for sure that you need at least 101 (it must be above 100) science to turn on main computer and open all doors. For repairing generator 100 repair will be enough.

Yeah, I have completely forgot about that ventilation hatch, I thought that after detonating dynamite on second level I couldn't get back there, because of that cave-in where deathclaw was.
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:14 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

I went back with that ventilation hatch after detonation and I don't have anymore option to go down that hole on first level. There is no way of going down now. Without dynamite there is no way of clearing that door on second level. How the hell I am supposed to get past that pile of rock behind door on second level without collapsing entire floor?
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:04 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

Ractaros96 wrote:I went back with that ventilation hatch after detonation and I don't have anymore option to go down that hole on first level. There is no way of going down now. Without dynamite there is no way of clearing that door on second level. How the hell I am supposed to get past that pile of rock behind door on second level without collapsing entire floor?


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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:53 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

You can personally visit only 1st floor and part of the second one. The base is too much damaged to be able to get deeper.

Ractaros96: As you have mentioned, you have collapsed entire 2nd floor, that's why there isn't option to go there anymore.
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:38 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

So what is the best way to go through Progema?

So far I have only managed to blow up the debris blocking the elevator and rope down.
Computer by the generator doesn't respond. (science 125)
When I try to repair the generator it fuses. (repair 125) [Edit} Repair 300 yields the same results
I go down to the second level and pick up combat armor and the weapon in the storage room and then leave via cave with a deathclaw.

Am I doing something wrong?
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:50 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

There are two generators. One fuses, the other is repairable.
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Post Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:53 pm

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Baardhaas wrote:There are two generators. One fuses, the other is repairable.


Thank you, you saved me a lot of frustration :)
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:33 am

Re: PROGEMA facility

Daemon wrote:You can personally visit only 1st floor and part of the second one. The base is too much damaged to be able to get deeper.


Well, I don't like it at all. For that I would like to connect that location to West Tek Research Complex (Glow) in F1. With quests there is only need to go to the first level to get that holodisk for BoS, yet you can visit all 6 levels of that complex, even if it's only some loot and holotapes to read. I just love to explore such locations. Pre-war research facilities in Fallout were always creepy and shed a light on how government and army of United States worked before war. As a matter of fact while constantly manipulating people with propaganda, they had little regard for human life. The entire society was dehumanized and probably not only in US. I remember how brutally protests were crushed, when US annexed Canada in 2072. Or in Fallout 3 when I read about testing new Nuka-Cola products and death of few people that it resulted in. The USA in Fallout Universe before war were obsessed with nuclear energy (and nuclear weapons too), completely dehumanized by expansive 20th century corporate capitalism which never ended. It resulted in uncontrollable research of creating super-soldiers by genetic manipulation and FEV wirus and creating new lethal life forms used in military. This world was meant to end in nuclear Apocalypse.
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Well, I'm sorry for that long talk. I think i just love to analyze the whole Fallout Universe, both sociologically and philosophically comparing it to our real world. The same with Star Trek Universe, which I love unconditionally.
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:54 am

Re: PROGEMA facility

Not sure if giving you a hint here on stuff you already found out but: Did you notice how he said you can not "personally" visit the other floors?
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:14 am

Re: PROGEMA facility

Baardhaas wrote:Not sure if giving you a hint here on stuff you already found out but: Did you notice how he said you can not "personally" visit the other floors?


Yeah yeah, I know about that robot on level 3.
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:25 pm

Re: PROGEMA facility

Where does one hear/learn (in-game) about this facility?
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:01 pm

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Shiv wrote:Where does one hear/learn (in-game) about this facility?


You don't have to. Just go south of Rat Hole. It'll be marked.
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Post Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:07 pm

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You don't have to. Just go south of Rat Hole. It'll be marked.


Yes, but i was wondering if there was quest or dialog i missed about the facility.
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