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How to pass Dernus?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:27 am
by Demo
Hello everybody and thanks for this great mod!

I am at supermutant base and i can't pass Dernus anyway :/ No sneaking/ speech works. Do i have to max those skills or is there another way to pass him and get access to the computer?

Re: How to pass Dernus?

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:40 am
by Daemon
Accept his quest or fight him and others.

Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:58 pm
by brotherofnone
Hi,

Why can't I, as a Mutant Hunter, be loyal to Sebastian and tell him that Dernus and his mutants at the Camp of Mutants wants me to betray him?
I do not want to kill the supermutants without the help of the Mutant Hunters (I probably can't kill all of them alone) neither I want to betray Sebastian.
Is there any way to sneak in past Dernus? I tried with Sneak at 110% and couldn't. Is there any other way to get past Dernus that is not killing him or betraying Sebastian?

Thank you for this great game!

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:01 pm
by GarettZriwin
Because Mutant Hunters are basically supposed to eradicate any mutant on sight?

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:31 pm
by brotherofnone
Hi GarettZriwin

Thank you for your reply.

I understand your point, however Dernus doesn't know I am a Mutant Hunter. And even if, for the sake of being realistic -- meaning that the player who joins the Mutant Hunters is always a fanatic and not a mercenary/opportunist looking for money and better equipment -- eradicating them was my only option, why can't I ask for reinforcements with my fellow Mutant Hunters? I mean, being a Mutant Hunter isn't being suicidal, right? Other option could be to betray Dernus at the last moment in a kind of counter-ambush. Or maybe fixing the generator at the camp and hacking the console to control the turrets of the base. It seems there could be some interesting options for a character that is not very combat-oriented.

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:57 pm
by Daemon
When is Sebastian giving you the quest, he'll tell you that he can't spare his men for the attack on the supermutants. That Dernus wants to kill him isn't any new information for him, it comes with being a Hunter. So yeah, you have pretty much written all your options. There's a possibility to sneak past Dernus, you just need to be better at it.
Anyway, killing supermuntants by yourself isn't that hard as it may appear. And you don't have to kill them all anyway, you just need to get past Dernus and supermutants in the underground floor.

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:10 pm
by brotherofnone
Hey Daemon,
Thank you for your reply.
Do you know how much Sneak is required to sneak past Dernus? Even with 110% as soon as I get past the door he engages me in conversation.
Thank you again.

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:15 pm
by Daemon
brotherofnone wrote:Do you know how much Sneak is required to sneak past Dernus? Even with 110% as soon as I get past the door he engages me in conversation.
Way more :| And it's better to do it during the night.

Re: Dernus/Camp of Mutants

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:10 pm
by brotherofnone
Done it (:
Sneak skill at 170%. Maybe a little lower would work too but I did not test it.
Thank you again!